Hi

I am sorry, I know there are quite a few postings on Daueraufenthalt EG in this site, but I am forced to ask this question because I have not seen any new entries connecting B1 and Daueraufenthalt EG recently. I am an Indian techie working in germany since Nov 2005. recently I submitted an application for grant of Daueraufenthalt EG.But he staff at the auslanderamt said I can be granted an "NE" but not a Daueraufenthalt EG because for that I need to pass German-B1 exam. I had a feeling she was a newbie and running around looking for answers. So thought I'd do my own research and find out if thats indeed valid, and thats why I am here. Just wondering, How can it been that I get permanent residence in Germany without a B1 exam pass, but a Daueraufenthalt EG with only B1? Even though my German was not that great, I was throughout speaking to her in German-that-I-know. I did show them an old letter from the stadt saying I am over qualified for this and they rejected my application to join integration course in 2006. I still did a few courses but I haven't passed the B1 exam.I travel continiously, so classroom courses unfortunately is not for me,and especially if I need to keep a job. Having said that, is B1 mandatory for Daueraufenthalt EG? Pls dont ridicule... :-) Looking forward to your replies. Thanks in advance.

I thought for NE also one has to pass the B1 exam. This is mandatory for all the Asians who came after 2004 to Germany with some exceptions. If the officer is ready to give you NE without B1 certificate, then it could be that they them self will carry out an exam on their own to evaluate your German skills and if they find that fine, they shall give you the visa.

In my case(in munich) DE-EG, I was asked to show B1 certificate, but I convinced the beamter, by showing B2 course participation certifcate and my MSc Degree(in english though).

Mostly ,it depends upon the beamter.

Thanks reddybabu and kewlbuddy, Thanks for sharing your experiences.
My question is slightly on the specific legality.
Just wanted to know what is the specific paragraph and clause which says that we need to furnish B1 exam results for Daueraufenthalt EG. Or, is there no such law? I mean , just wanted to make sure I am not falling prey to someone's ignorance about the law or perhaps his/her whims and fancies. Please help.Thanks again, in advance.

@ pwrbuilder:

Please read the § 9a Erlaubnis zum Daueraufenthalt-EG , Para 3 which states about the German lang:

Einem Ausländer ist eine Erlaubnis zum Daueraufenthalt- EG nach Artikel 2 Buchstabe b der Richtlinie 2003/109/EG zu erteilen, wenn

1. ---
2. ---
3. er über ausreichende Kenntnisse der deutschen Sprache verfügt,
4. ---
5. ---
6. ---

The minimum level set for "ausreichende Kenntnisse der deutschen Sprache" means one should have B1 certificate.
They ask for B1 most the time and i have also submitted B1 proof 3 years ago for Daueraufenthalt-EG.

If you have been working full time job and you were not able to attend a course due to this time restriction, then you are exempted from this course. Anyway you lost your eligibility for attendance in a language course 2 years after your arrival to Germany.

I had no obligation to take such a course. In the list of requirements for NE that I got from the ABH it says that I have to show command in basic German.

I am speaking German at work more than 2.5 years now and also have a statement from my previous emplyoer that my German is very good for daily communication. If you can get such a written statement from your employer that can convince the ABH.

Good luck!