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Visa Questions

BE erlaubt...

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3/30/05 3:29 PM
I remeber there was one our friend who get BE for any kind of job?!
According the new LAW, ist there some paragraph where is saying that after 4 years residence or 3 years job in DE, an (GC-like me) can have BE for any kind of job i.e aufenthalt without any 'beschrankungen'?!
There must be...
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3/30/05 5:37 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
don't know what you mean.
if you mean Erlaubnis for selbstständige Arbeit, NoBody got it.
it is Auflage "Erwerbstätigkeit gestattet"

Law says that they must give:
"Beschäftigung erlaubt" (Be), but not Eg.

They have to give Eg only if you invest 1 milion € and provide job for 10 people.
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3/30/05 6:34 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
I was thinking about this 'stick' next to 'aufenthalt' that is saying 'nür gultig für arbeit als IT fach kraft'.
Simply to have visum without that.
I know after NE, but before that....
Is there any LAW that may be, is giving that kind of right.
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3/30/05 7:26 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
max what is the matter with you?
we wrotte BMI abot that and you send letter to BMI and received the answer.
Did you have amnesia?

"Be" is Auflage that goes for every Arbeit (but not selbstständig).
We are entitled to "Be" after 4 y in D or after 3 y working in D according to BeschVerfV §9.4
http://www.aufenthaltstitel.de/beschverfv.html#9
Even BMI letter you received says something about it.
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3/31/05 1:34 AM as a reply to Johnny English.
Ups...
In this letter they say, only for work as IT....or maybe I have all mess.
I was thinking...
I quit the job as IT tomorrow and search job as kaufman and Arbeitsamt do not make any check (as it is written from BMI) and the Beamter give me new visa for any kind of job.
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3/31/05 12:07 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
In BMI letter is written:

"Soweit jedoch eine andere Beschäftigung als im Bereich der Informations- und Kommunikationstechnologie erfolgt ist eine erneute Zustimmung erforderlich, wenn nicht bereits eine Zustimmung nach §9 Abs. 1 Beschäftigungsverfahrensverordnung erteilt wurde."


So they say that anything out of IT should be checked by AA.
But not if you have allready got "Be".

In another words it is better to ask for "Be" before job wechsel because it is possible that if you ask only for WP, AA will probably do AMC and if you pass, you will get WP binded to firma. Theoretically it should not happend but it happends because if you do not ask Be explicitly and mention §9.1 nobody will look at that §.
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3/31/05 4:41 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
So...
There is no problem to have that or?!
Do you know this LAW paragraph where is saying that?
If there is, I will search it....
Afcourse if they make problems I go again to BMI!
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3/31/05 6:08 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
max this §§ is BeschVerfV § 9.1 and § 9.4
http://www.aufenthaltstitel.de/beschverfv.html#9
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4/1/05 1:11 AM as a reply to Johnny English.
Ah sooooo.
Jetz ist mir klar.
I was thinking that this is only valid in field for IT work.
I will take this mail from BMI and will go to change my visum right away.
Wish me luck.
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4/1/05 1:24 AM as a reply to Johnny English.
I think "BE erlaubt" and removal of the limitations are nearly must for people who filled the conditions like working 3 years or 'existing' 4 years in Germany.
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4/1/05 11:49 AM as a reply to Johnny English.
Right...
I have 4 years and 5 months...
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4/2/05 7:29 AM as a reply to Johnny English.
"We are entitled to "Be" after 4 y in D or after 3 y working in D according to BeschVerfV §9.4
http://www.aufenth....de/beschverfv.html#9
Even BMI letter you received says something about it."

(1) Die Zustimmung zur Ausübung einer Beschäftigung kann ohne Prüfung ...

i mean if the officials are nice it does not mean that people can require from them something for what they actually do not have a right. ask - is OK, but require? :o
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4/2/05 5:55 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
@-
were officials nice to you to?

kann = must if there is no good reason not to
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4/2/05 11:40 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
"were officials nice to you to?"

why, without them the life would be not so interesting and simply boring ;)


kann != must if somebody comes, requires a thing, tells officials that they "must" and behaves themself as their superior ;)
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4/3/05 2:24 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
- says:
"kann != must if somebody comes, requires a thing, tells officials that they "must" and behaves themself as their superior"

you mean like you?
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4/3/05 4:31 PM as a reply to Johnny English.
"you mean like you?"

i do a worse thing - just ignore them ;)
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