as raj mentioned.

it works, lot many Turkish opting this and return back the citizenship.

I am really confuse what Yakoo want to mean by his following comments and what Raj mentioned.


"I got reply from the Rechtsanwalt und Steuerberater of our company. He himself is German. He told me one or two options through which it is possible to get both things(Citizenship and pension contributions back) and once the right time comes then I will apply for this. Only condition is that you should not be registered in Germany at the time of appl. for pension contributions."

I think, yakoo wants to mean to get pension money back without giving up German citizenship.

Please shed some light on Yakoo's comment if anybody know. This is a hot topic for me as I want to go back.

Kind Regards
Raman

>>yakoo wants to mean to get pension money back without giving up German citizenship.

I am not sure if there is such a loophole of having both the citizenship and getting pension refunds.

"it works, lot many Turkish opting this and return back the citizenship."

Germany and Turkey have an agreement in that regard. How is that supposed to work then ?

Very interesting opinions on citizenship...
Well, I would like to know if any of you have some information on 15 yrs. of residence in Germany and it's advantages compared to NE or Citizenship...

Would be great to know your thoughts...

Thank you.
Pramod.

What is the reason someone who has lived 15 years will not go atleast for a NE?

@Pramod,

the basic difference is that if you have NE then you can keep your photograph as it is currently(with tricolor) and if you opt for german citizenship then you MUST keep german flag as in your background. The other issues such as pension money are secondary ;-)

cheers

@subir79

is that not his underwear hanging in background?

@Akshay

You always aim below the belt ..lol

It's easy here to deviate from the topic
Anyway Akshay, it depends on your perception how you see the things..I don't want to write any patriotic stmts here as it is my not my job.

I was asking what would be the advantage of being 15 yrs in DE in terms of vlaidity of visa when some leaves DE for >6 months and any other things that this community shoud know...

Thank you.
Pramod.

Hello All

I came to know through a web site that since the 1st Oct 2009, India has come into an agreement with Germany for pension money.

Does anyone know whether this means that Indians cannot get the pension money refund if having lived in Germany for more than 5 years?

This web link lists India as an Abkommensstaaten:
http://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung-bund.de/nn_11268/SharedDocs/de/Inhalt/Servicebereich2/Lexikon/A/abkommensstaaten.html

Abkommensstaaten
Als Abkommensstaaten werden die Länder bezeichnet, mit denen die Bundesrepublik Deutschland Sozialversicherungsabkommen geschlossen hat:


Australien
Bosnien-Herzegowina
Chile
China (Entsendeabkommen)
Indien (Entsendeabkommen)
Israel
Japan
Kanada und Quebec
Republik Korea
Kosovo
Kroatien
Marokko
Mazedonien
Montenegro
Serbien
Tunesien
Türkei
USA

Maddy

@maddy,

I think the rule is for temporary employees (onsite employees) but not for normal german employees.