@max

just read that you're in Berlin, would like to meet you and in case you're here over the week-end, possibly invite you at home for dinner.

Drop me a mail if you're ok with that at daolwin at hotmail dot com.

D.

Hi Max.
Nice to hear something from you. Is the Makedonija on WM?
Where are you living in Makedonija? Skopje?
I was living in Makedonija one whole year.
What will be with school for your doughter?
She should now be 10 and after summer start Gymnasium if she would stay in Germany.
Is she doing the school in Makedonija now?

On your place I would still push with german NE.
You are just one step from it.

So I wish you luck and NE

@babloo
"you might be exhausted replying questions from everywhere."
That is my 3rd post on this forum and probably the last one.
"what is that typical thingy?"
I meant this seems to me that this is the nth messge in which someone from india complains about discrimination in germany. In the majority of cases (as far as I remember all cases, but I don't have the time to verify this) such complainings come from someone from India This is why I re-used the word "typical".
If you have the time to make a statistic please make the results public. I might be worng. It seems I was wrong this time as instructor says I'm "just simply wrong".. but he doesn't give any other details (like, how wrong am I, in km? )

@instructor
I find your last message extremely offending (not only towards me). As your first. Again, not only towards me. As all your other messages on this thread. A thread that belongs in the recycle bin, starting from the 4th message.
I'll try to explain why I find your writings offending and I hope I don't waste my time with a tokio hotel fan (as I can guess from one of your messages).
If you didn't get it yet I'm also an Ausländer as you, only I'm from eastern europe (by the way, where are you from ?). And in your first message you imply that all eastern europians are like those responsible for the racist killings in russia. Am I not allowed to be offended by such a statement? To ask you to review it ? To come with a pertinent answer ? (an appology would do just fine) You say even that you have "thousands of reports from eastern europian countries if someone interested (including poland, slovakia/slovenia, romania, latvia, belarus, east-germany...)". But you have none, because, at least in romania, I don't know of such cases and I doubt that you know better.
I don't know where this... hate (hope is *not* the right word) of yours comes from. I'm sorry you have eastern-europian colleagues that caused or contributed to this, but you cannot generalize things in the way you do and say that >20 mil people have a "dirty mentality (that is what i called neo-conservative eastern europian mentality)" (I only counted romanians, I even substracted the minorities about which you say that "even dog are treated better than those human beings" - by the way, what makes you so sure I don'T belong to this minority ?).

"please comeout of your small rat-hole and show your existance."
If you'll express some decent public appologies I'l be available for a beer in some weekend in frankfurt, darmstadt, wiesbaden or mainz, at your choice.
Although, if your behaviour is as violent as your languange, I might have some hesitations.

@DvD
She is 11 almoust.Yes she is going to IGM - but we shall see.
For NE - I am not intending to push it.If happened - happened.
Now I will resting my self few months.As I said I am seeck and with bad helth.I have to take care for my heart.
You see the hearth is like a woman.When you think that you have control it, it betrails you!

@mrx

right now i don't have much time to answer you! i'll be clearing all your doubts soon i've time.

@mrx

"I find your last message extremely offending (not only towards me)."

i find your FIRST message was extremly offending to all asians here.

"As your first. Again, not only towards me. As all your other messages on this thread. A thread that belongs in the recycle bin, starting from the 4th message."

what do you think your first message?

"I'll try to explain why I find your writings offending and I hope I don't waste my time with a tokio hotel fan (as I can guess from one of your messages)."

i'll not explain you why your messages were offending asians.

"If you didn't get it yet I'm also an Ausländer as you,"

did i ever comment on myself? sorry you've very bad assumptions and i just simply don't like that.

"only I'm from eastern europe (by the way, where are you from ?)."

why do you think everyone should make advertisement here that where someone come from?

"And in your first message you imply that all eastern europians are like those responsible for the racist killings in russia."

you are wrong, it's nothing to do with russia, most of eastern europian countries have those people and mejority. sorry there are exceptions who infact have broader views as well. i know buhnch of highly intelligent people from there as friends. if they were'nt they would'nt accept me as friend.

"Am I not allowed to be offended by such a statement?"

how can you think like that when you are offending asians?

"To ask you to review it ?"

read your first message then you know what you are asking for.

"To come with a pertinent answer ? (an appology would do just fine)"

i did, just scroll back!

"You say even that you have "thousands of reports from eastern europian countries if someone interested (including poland, slovakia/slovenia, romania, latvia, belarus, east-germany...)". But you have none, because, at least in romania, I don't know of such cases and I doubt that you know better."

i guess you should be as afrikan or asian walking in eastern europe then you would understand.

"I don't know where this... hate (hope is *not* the right word) of yours comes from."

i don't hate but just a blick from your first and last post!

"I'm sorry you have eastern-europian colleagues that caused or contributed to this,"

my colleagues had problem in eastern europian countries when the visited. i've very good eastern europian and broader minded colleagues and friends as i said and unfortunatly not many are like that.

"but you cannot generalize things in the way you do and say that >20 mil people have a "dirty mentality (that is what i called neo-conservative eastern europian mentality)" (I only counted romanians, I even substracted the minorities about which you say that "even dog are treated better than those human beings" - by the way, what makes you so sure I don'T belong to this minority ?)."

you say it as majority not generalize! if you belong to the roma community then you are a "victim" otherwise you are a "täter" and if you protect them then you are a "defender" with broader mind.

"If you'll express some decent public appologies I'l be available for a beer in some weekend in frankfurt, darmstadt, wiesbaden or mainz, at your choice."

you first! because of your first message and not understanding my post.

Although, if your behaviour is as violent as your languange, I might have some hesitations.

i'm not violent as you think, so no hesitations. and i donot gain anything by hating or with violence.

Hi Max, your situation is a good reminder to many of us that although the situation could be extremely frustrating and sometimes seens to be unreasonable, but finally good health comes first. I wish you a speedy recovery.

J

As I said I am seeck and with bad helth.I have to take care for my heart.

guess in your case this was the only thing that could let you avoid a deportation. therefore i would say that life is not so bad - because a deportation may affect health of a victim in a harsher way

Hey to all of you...
The one thing that I have not wanted to learn and take all this years here was:
That in Germany I am Ausländer and Gastarbeiter and as soon when I will finish my several years I have to go out.
Germany was never, and will be never immigrant’s country.
After those new Ausländer Gesetz from 1.1.2005, it was like flame for me that I can have my life and rights and chance for new live and equal opportunity and - all that what I have been ever heard about Germany - I was so full.
At least I have cleaned my name from that nasty story with some idiot as employer and his abuse and terrorism. The last one – employer – throw me only after 2 months because I got heart attack at job time. If they wanted to keep me on, maybe I’ve could die with my stupid wish for having NE at any price.
So I just only can say – everything that shines –is not gold!

with my stupid wish for having NE at any price.

that's a main reason you had so many problems. people see that you want "to have NE at any price", they are using it. if they saw that you don't care about Germany and will leave without problems they most surely would offer you much better conditions ;)

@ -
Drop some Email at stevco11 at yahoo dot de.
New friend is not too much....

Suggestion made by @- is interesting. I wonder if there are others who feel the same - apply with an attitude of "Not at any price".

J

@kaan.oezturk

i would like to keep my personal opinion regarding turks.

- in public, if i/we've problem and shout for help, turkish people are the one who would help us, and any neo-conservative people would be (prolly) happy to see me/us getting hurted.

- if we donot have milk at home, we can ask "Mr. Mustafa / Mrs. Ayesha" family will help us getting it at any time.

- i'm strong supporter of turkey getting into the EU, when people are soo nice and helpful compared to eastern bloc.

- i'm not a citizen of turkey and does not belong to that religion and even does not look like turkish, though i/we get help.

- so i wanted to keep people away from dirty politics / military and police.

- you need some more list? so you know where and for what i stand for.

@instructor

I also totally agree in keeping people away from dirty politics / military and police.

I also want to say, that the turkish politics/military is not soo dirty as you read or know.

The world history is written by the nations who can afford that. How would the world history look like, if the American-Indians, Inkas or African people became world power and start to write the history? Every nation writes its own version, but the truth lies in the middle of them or it is complete different. X says a massacre, where Y says "a war against the terror". But Y is always right, because he can afford it!

KaaN

@kaan.oezturk

no comments and the thread is closed!

But Y is always right, because he can afford it!

the question is how long he can afford it ;)

"the question is how long he can afford it"

as long as X exists ;) because X is paying for that!

as long as X exists because X is paying for that!

i would really miss german authorities. 'cause without them i would hardly get paid for nothing!

as long as X exists because X is paying for that!

i would really miss german authorities. 'cause without them i would hardly get paid for nothing!

@-

"i would really miss german authorities. 'cause without them i would hardly get paid for nothing!"

it's better to dream something else!