Hello All,

On last Friday I got German citizenship. It took exactly 5 weeks after submitting my application with all the required papers.

I have been living in Germany for almost 7 years - 4.5 years for study, 2.5 years with job.

best regards
mk

Hi mk,

Can you list up the documents you have submitted for the application?

Are you from an EU country?

Cheers
Krisztian

Congrads. That is the shortest period i have ever heard of. Should be eligible for Guiness Book of World Records ;-)

Where exactly did u apply? City/Town would be nice.

@mk

Is there something seriously wrong with german bureaucrats??

Apparently, they were waiting with a blank passport to put your name on it ;-)

>Is there something seriously wrong with german >bureaucrats??

Nope.. I was told at Einburgerüngamt that in case of EU citizens the process lasts only a couple of weeks

Hello All,

Thank you very much for your congrats.

Below is the list of the documents I submitted:
i. Birth certificate
ii. Salary slip (3 months)
iii. work contract
iv. house contract
v. orientation course/integration course certificate

The place of my citizenship was in Niedersachsen. The Amt is Stadt Hildesheim. The guys there are always friendly and co-operative. I have heard the same processing time for many other foreigners from Hildesheim.

I am not from EU. I am from South Asia with Muslim religion.

BR
mk

@mk
you mentioned deutsche/integration course certificate.
Is it only a certificate of participation or really certificate of prufung(ZD)

Cheers

It was a certificate of participating and passing Integration/Orientierung prüfung. The Orientierungs course lasts 5 days (30 hours), then on the 6th day there was a test on this. I got a certificate on the same day from VHS (Sonneberg) where I made the test.

I submitted this certificate to the Einbürgerungsamt.

one more info: the Einbürgerungsamt official has told me that I do not need any Deutsch certificate as he thought I was fluent enough in German after talking to me about 10 minutes.

@mk

Did you have to submit a handwritten Lebenslauf?

yes, i did submit a hand written lebenslauf.

@mk

Is there a speical format for this Lebenslauf? or is it just usual Lebenslauf when applying for jobs?

it was not like the one for job. it is a brief lebenslauf. Mine was 1 page.

i have written the following information in my lebenslauf:

Name, father's name, mother's name, date of birth, place of birth, current nationality, education, job history (only the names of the companies and time), hobbys.

Those are just an example for my case. I think there is no specific format for this. Main point is that you have written there something about yourself!

Greetings,

I have the following

- Daueraufenthalt EG + Niederlassungserlaubnis
- "Zertifikat Deutsch"
- 6 years in Germany - working all the time
- read/speak/write German without any issues(fluent)

What else do I need to apply for citizenship?

Thank in advance!

i think you can go to your Einbürberungsamt to talk if you can apply now. If they agree that you are well integrated, then 6 years should be okay.

Gook luck,
mk

In my case it took 19 or 20 days (less than 3 weeks)to get the citizenship (that was one year ago)...so i guess in some cases they are really quick

sorry mk. Now gc123 has been declared the winner by 2 weeks

gc has got it in less than 3 weeks. it could be possible.
from my experience i can say that Einbürgerungsamt guys are much better, friendly and efficient than our long-beloved Auslanderbehörde guys!!!

Congratulation Mk,
I have one question to you and also to others:
you told that orientation course took 5 days. What were the the contents of this orientaion course? Just few highlights about this course please ?

I have the following situation:
I am not very fluent in German language but can manage talking to some points and have been in Germany since 6 years (4 as full time working with GC visa + 2 years study). Am I eligible for German Citizenship if I do this orientaion course only?
I will appreciate for your answer.
regrards,
salman

>>Just few highlights about this course please ?

It is very easy course if you understand german.
It deals with
1. History (how germany came into existence, worldwar etc etc)
2. Politics (Parties in germany, their philosophy etc)
3. Culture

>>Am I eligible for German Citizenship if I do this orientaion course only?

No. You are eligible for 7 years rule if you provide Integration Course certificate(Zertifikat Deutsch + Orientierung course)

Hi mk,

congratulations for your DE citizenship.

However it is really a very short time. In Hessen for example it takes 6-9 Months to get an answer.

So for me it is still very difficult to belive that in other parts of Germany you get the citizenship faster the NE or a normal GC.

Regards,
kosovar.

@MK
Hi, congrats.
One question: I thought one of the requirements is to have 60 months of Rente paid if someone wants to get DE.
Did you pay 60 months? Did they ask for it?

Also, anyone from NRW who got Deutsch Citizenship?

regards

mk bhai,
Schön gemacht, herzliches Glückwunsch.

xadnan

@mailsuzi
thanks!

for getting citizenship you do not need to pay any rente. the official will never ask any rente papers if you want to get citizenship.

My opinion :
the German citizenship officials want that the foreigners with good job and good profession become citizen easily. It is beneficial for the government because we will normally never think of getting Sozial Hilfe as done by normal foreigners (e.g. asylum seekers).

@xadnan: danke bruder!
Viel Spaß!

br
mk

So when i apply for Citizenship, Is it compulsary that i have a job . Has i have NE , what if i get arbietslose.

regards
pac

i think the officials would not be that satisfied seeing you arbeitslos during your application. it will reduce your chance of getting approval.

@mk,

thanks for your reply. I am totally confused. If you read the law, it says we need 60 months rente.

Also, you said you are from south asia. Does it not take time to give back old citizenship? How long did it take for you. If you dont mind, which was your previous citizenship?

regards

@mailsuji

in Einbüerungsgesetzs there is no requirement of Rente. So you can forget about rente issue for Citizenship.

Giving the old citizenship up is not your work, this is the work of German citizenship office. you do not need to care for this time. what you should care is the time, the citizenship office needs to decide.

br
mk

@mk,
First congratulations for your successful and MARATHON result.

But, you would wonder that since June, its still pending for a Zusicherung in Hessen.

I just called today and was told that the Amts-Prüfung is finished and the person will do the Prüfung. And, due to 70-pending cases ahead, there cannot be given anything like 5-6 week time.

One thing is clear, there will be nothing sent in this year.

Gruss,

A.T

@ mk

Congrats!!! Wish you a good start in your new home country

Congrats MK. Wishing you all the best with the new European citizenship.

Since I am completing 8 years(2yrs study, 6 years in Job) in Feb, I have also started thinking about the possible pros and cons of holding a German citizenship.

Since with the introduction of the new OCI (Overseas Citizenship of India) option for people of Indian origin, the option of having a German Passport (GP) looks more advantageous.

Is there anyone with experience in Bayern?
3-5 weeks time sounds promising, but I feel it is more dependent on the Einburgeramt officials.

It there any overseas Indians with GP and OCI card? Please throw some light on the pros and cons of the same.

Regards
Chandra

Hi MK ,

Congrats!!!
I reside in Frankfurt and I have decided to submit the citizenship application for me and my wife and child through the Lawyers of VPMK office .

I have an opposit impression than MK had , which is very complex lets say . Either because I submitted it through lawyers or because of the complexity of current dual citizenshp of my wife or the subjectivity of Reviewal process .

They Certificate of finishing Integration course of my wife was not enough , they asked for additional bescheinigung that she speecifically attended an Integration course !!

Plus , they did not recognize a marriage certificate translated and notorized from the German Embassy in my home country 7 years ago .

and they asked for notorized copies of passports .
etc, etc ..

Regards

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know if it is possible to retain the old citizenship (like US) and still get German Citizenship? I read the law but it seems quite vague. Any tips on how to get the German government to accept dual citizenship? It seems that they accept it if you would have a hardship by doing so. Anyone got good examples of "hardships"? Is it even possible when one has a citizenship from one of the "sogenannte Industrielaender"? Would an immigration lawyer be able to pull this off?

Btw- spouse is German (married 9 years) and I have been here for 4+ years this time and spent 4+ years previously (2.5 years in between outside Germany but inside the EU).

Thanks
Rhody

Hi Mk,

Congratulations for your DE citizenship. Hope you have given away your Indian passport. Can you please let me the procedure/URL detailing(giving away the Indian passport and thier costs).By the way "Eid-Mubarak" and "Happy new year" to all teh friends reading my column.Eagerly waiting for the response Mk.

mushtaq52@hotmail.com

Take care

@rhodydk

http://www.toytowngermany.com/

There are lots of US expats on that forum where you can get some concrete answer.

@mustaq

you do not need to do anything to abandon your current citizenship. Once the Einbürberungsamt is done with checking all the issues, you will be given a letter to get DE citizenship. When you go there to get your DE citizenship, you have to sign a paper stating that you are giving your current citizenship up and taking DE citizenship. Then you have to hand your current passport over to the Einbürgerungsamt. At that point your are done!

Einbürgerungsamt will send the passport and your decleration paper to indian authority. You do not need to do anything here. All the issues will be taken care of by the Einbürgerungsamt!

Cheers and Eid Mubarak to all!

BR
MK

Hello Mr.Mk,

I really appreciate & thank you for answering to my question. Never the less i do have an another question :-(, as i am in an confused state. Today i received a letter from EBAmt, stated to reproduce my "Passport, Last 3 months salaries & my original date of birth certificate". What's your opinion concerning my suitation dear Mk ? do you think that i am almost through the german citizen procedure :-) or .... If you have time i would give a call(please send me your telephone to my mail), or you can give a call at 0641-9845262.

Thanks in advance
Take care
mushtaq52@hotmail.com

Hello All & MK,

Can anyone please explain about the benefits that can be availed/claimed or must be availed/claimed after getting German citizenship ?

Thanks in advance

Hallo all,

thanks for all the comments. I would like to apply for citizenship in Hessen and wanted to have the information that how long they need to process for einbürgerung. Any comments from Hessen people with their experiences might be very helpful. Obervations from experienced people of DO's and DON'T comments are highly appreiciable and shall fasten the process. Thanks for your help.

SM

to get a german citizenship must u be married for 3 years to a german or u must be married and living with her for 3 years becaused i am get 3 years married soon but i have been living in germany only 2 and a half years

Thanks chromy,
I am living in Germany more than 8 years but all the way I registerd as a student. I am earning enough since 5 years and I have contract couple of years more (official contract). my question is with student status and earning enough is enough to get naturalization?
thanks
SM

Hi there,
Take a look at http://www.zdeutsch.com/

Hi there,
Take a look at http://www.zdeutsch.com/

Are you also a HSMP holder?

Hallo There

Presently I am living in Germany and very soon marrying with German girl.
I have got a better job in Austria and therefore I want to go to Austria for job.
Here I am confused about going . Because I want to know if I will get any residence permit for Germany or not if I am working in Austria and my German wife will join me there. Or the residence permit for Germany I will only get if I live in germany or work in Germany.

Pls reply..

Kr

Hello,

could you kindly let me know how should one be able to process this, currently iam in germany as a student since 2 years and iam planning to do my masters which would take 2 yrs more. so does that mean i can apply for it or do i need to stay longer, find a job and then apply??

Dear forum colleagues,

I have Indian nationality with daueraufenthalt eg. I have been living in Germany from 2002 and want to relocate to India soon. Recently, I got a good job offer from India. I am also expecting a baby in September. We have plans to move to India by the end of May. However, most of my friends recommend to take German passport & OCI card. I speak German.I don't have B1 and did not take einbürgerungstest.

- How long does it take to get German passport + OCI in BW?

- Does it worth loosing the job in India because of the German passport? Even if I wait one year, are there any risks of not getting German passport.

- If I get a kid here, does he/she also get German passport?

- Are there any hidden problems when I want to live with OCI card in India. E.g. Sending my kids to schools, colleges etc. I heard that NRI schools are very expensive.

Please share your views!

sorry but .... what the hell is "Deutsch Citizenship" which language is that ? german? english? indian english? indian german? indian german/english

Hello mk,

Are you still in Hildesheim or around?