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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)

Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
permanent residence (niederlassungelaubnis)
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26/08/12 0:33
Dear All,
I have completed my master study in Germany and had been working for 3 years paying the renteversicherung. Now i want to apply for me and my husband a permanent residence permit according to the Act ¥18b. I have contacted the auslanderbehorde and the told me to bring some documents. So my questions are:
1. From where do i get a 24 month renteversicherung Nachweis?
2. Are they going to interview me? If yes, what kind of questions do they ask? If possible with some examples.
3. The Act ¥18b doesn't mention the B1 integration certificate unlike to the Act ¥19. Did you ever asked for this document?
I thank you all in advance.
CG
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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26/08/12 20:16 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
Hallo cg-eth ,

The Renteversicherung Nachweis i.e. Renteversicherungsverlauf you can always get from Renteversicherung Amt in your city, you need to take your Identification, and should know your Renteversicherungsnummer (which you can see in your salary slip).

The Renteversicherungsverlauf, you will always get for the completed year (not for current year), if you need upto date you can call the Hotline number under http://www.deutsche-rentenversicherung.de/Allgemein/de/Navigation/0_Home/home_node.html

Otherwise ask the officer if they accept your salary slip for the current year.

I think so there will not be any Interview qestions, only they ask for some necessary documents if et-al required.

About your 3rd question i have no experience, but as per §18c Absatz 4 says, that "§ 9 Absatz 2 Satz 1 Nummer 2 und 4 bis 9 vorliegen; § 9 Absatz 2 Satz 2 bis 6 gilt entsprechend." which means that points 2 and 4 to 9 are existance.

The point 7 says the requirement of German knowledge, but this you can satisfy the officer by speaking some basic German, in that case B1 cert. is not a Demand.
So in Law you can see the above interpretation as:
"Ferner wird davon abgesehen, wenn der Ausländer sich auf einfache Art in
deutscher Sprache mündlich verständigen kann
und er nach § 44 Abs. 3 Nr. 2 keinen Anspruch auf Teilnahme am Integrationskurs hatte oder er nach § 44a Absatz 2 Nr. 3 nicht zur Teilnahme am Integrationskurs verpflichtet war. Darüber hinaus wird von den Voraussetzungen des Satzes 1 Nr. 2 und 3
abgesehen, wenn der Ausländer diese aus den in Satz 3 genannten Gründen nicht erfüllen kann.

Cheers
BT
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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27/08/12 9:27 en respuesta a Brain Teaser.
Hello,

I have visited AB to get Niederlassungelaubnis under § 18b two week ago. but i got a letter on Friday that they are asking me further work contract. I have limited work contract till 31st Dec 2012. but i have worked more then three year.

- er zum Zeitpunkt der Antragstellung einen seinem Abschluss angemessenen Arbeitsplatz inne hat,

By above line, i should have work contract related with my study not permanent contract.There is no description about permanent work contract.

Anyone have experience with this visa ? What should i do in this regards ? 

Thanks for your suggestions.
Ken
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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30/08/12 16:03 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
Thank you guys for the reply. But i have one more question. They also asked me to bring "Nachweis Ihrer monatlichen Belastungen (z.B. Kreditraten, Schuldentilgung und ähnliches)". What is this document and from where do I get it?
Thank you again,
CG
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30/08/12 16:07 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
I think you can bring the Bill of your creditcards, along with your Bank statement for two or three months. Just to tell them how much you spend per month
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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30/08/12 16:15 en respuesta a Ans Sargana.
Thank you sargana. I will make an appointment next week. I hope they will not interview me about the law system of Germany and other stuff.
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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31/08/12 13:12 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
One more question...sorry
Is the decision for the permanent residence application made directly by the officer in AB or do my documents will be send to other authority?  They said that I have to pay 155€/person for the application. Is it if the application is successful or do I have to pay again 100€ to get the limited residence permit?
Thanks again
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 13:18 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
cg-eth:
One more question...sorry
Is the decision for the permanent residence application made directly by the officer in AB or do my documents will be send to other authority?  They said that I have to pay 155€/person for the application. Is it if the application is successful or do I have to pay again 100€ to get the limited residence permit?
Thanks again


The AB officer simply checks if you fulfill the criteria. In my case he didnt even ask for the German language certificate as he said we could
communicate with each other in German and he would not be needing proof. One thing is police verification which he will get it done by himself.
If all turns out fine then the NE will be granted... The fees for your NE is different from the limited residence permit. You mighthave to pay it
again for the limited residence permit incase your NE is rejected.
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 16:50 en respuesta a Kinshuk Srivastava.
So it means that I know the decision rightaway from the officer or is the decision going to be made by other authority?
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 17:05 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
cg-eth:
So it means that I know the decision rightaway from the officer or is the decision going to be made by other authority?

In my case it took about a month (may be because it was holiday season and they didnt have anyother appointtments free). But they took the application
and ased for  police clearance(verify if i had any criminal records). Once they got the clearance they granted me the NE.I assume the same will be in your case. I know of this because the guy who was supposed to give me the NE was on a holiday and my file got transferred to another lady. She was kind enough to tell me the entire procedure at the time of granting the NE
Cheers
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 17:11 en respuesta a Kinshuk Srivastava.
But when you give tha application documents, do they check and say that you will get the NE or do they say that it will be checked and the decision will be made later? I am asking this because, i am applying for my whole family and if this application is not sucessful and if i have to pay again for AE, it will be too much cost. Could be plase clarify me what they said when you give them the application? Thanks a lot for your help.
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 17:17 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
cg-eth:
But when you give tha application documents, do they check and say that you will get the NE or do they say that it will be checked and the decision will be made later? I am asking this because, i am applying for my whole family and if this application is not sucessful and if i have to pay again for AE, it will be too much cost. Could be plase clarify me what they said when you give them the application? Thanks a lot for your help.
Oh OK. In my case they told me that i satisfy the criteria for NE at the time of submitting the documents. He said the only thing needed now is
the Police clearance which he said might take upto a month. He still gave me an appointment on a date after one month and said just in case
there is a change he would inform me. Apparently, they got the clearance very quickly and it was electronic clearance. Hope this helps.
Cheers
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2/09/12 17:31 en respuesta a Kinshuk Srivastava.
Strangerrules......Thank u so much!
I have a limited work contract. Do u think that will affect my application?
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 17:35 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
If you are working as a researcher and show sufficient German skills, then it should not be a problem.
Same was my case emoticon
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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2/09/12 17:36 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
Follow up to my previous post, i had a limited work contract but since i was in the field of research, he said its OK
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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3/09/12 10:55 en respuesta a Kinshuk Srivastava.
What document did you provided to show monthly expenses?
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3/09/12 12:27 en respuesta a Chris Gates.
I just showed the bank statement...
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3/09/12 14:21 en respuesta a Kinshuk Srivastava.
Sorry your question was monthly expenses. In my case he just didnt ask. I just showed via my bank statement
that i regularly get salary. I am not too sure how one can show the expenses.
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RE: Permanent Residence (Niederlassungelaubnis)
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5/09/12 9:52 en respuesta a Kinshuk Srivastava.
Thanks for your help. Wish me luck....i am foing there now.
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