Hi raj,

my German is good, but iam confusing (or i dont know really what it means).

Einburgerung = Citizenship
Staatangehorigkeit = Nationality

So it means even if an Indian applies for citizenship here in Germany his Nationality will not change?
r will it change after few yrs of German citizenship?

Pls reply simple ans only.

Nationality: The status of belonging to a particular nation by birth or naturalization

Citizenship: The status of a citizen of the given nation with rights and duties

I have a question. I have submitted my citizenship application from Düsseldorf on 31st Aug. They said it will take approx 3 months to get the urkunde. Now for unavoidabe reasons I need to change my job. My question is

1. Do I need to inform the behörde about this change ?

2. Will the change delay the entire process ?

3. Is there any way to avoid it ?

Regards

ikkyg

1) You must infrom them about this change.
2) Yes, may be before sending the final letter they will ask you to provide last 3 salary slips.
3) Yes, Do not change your job. otherwise answer is No.

Regards
Khan

Hi,

Presently iam working as an External employee, soonly(in 2011) my client wants to take me as Internal permanent Employee.
qus:
1. If i apply for Einbürgerung in this month, is my Einbürgerung process shall be delayed even if i get a contract without Probation period?

thank you

Coming back to the real topic of the thread and telling you my story
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Place of application Munich

1. Came in 2003 and did my masters degree in economics in Berlin. Worked from 2004 to 2006 parallel to my studies in student job paying social security contributions

2. 2006 started by first job in Munich

3. 2008 recieved Niederlassungerlaubnis für Hochqualifizierte (PR for highly qualified) based on my salary and job profile (working as consultant in a well known company)

4. Active in social work in Germany through a German Indian Association(head of organization) and member of Bayerischer Integrationsrat since 2008, 2009 respectively

5. Submitted application for citizenship after 6.5 of staying in Germany with all relevant documents including active voluntary work certificates and recommendation from the company. Language certificate C1 (only an informal online test) + B1 certificate(full score) + integrationskurs certificate (full score in orientation test) + citizenship test (full score)

6. Application was submitted under discretionary citizenship (Ermessenseinbürgerung §8 StAg) quoting exceptional integration skills + company's statement that I represent their interests and need to travel abroad often (my case actually)

7. After submission, 1 month security check + 2.5 weeks for the positive decision.Today I got citizenship certificate (Einbürgerungsurkunde) in a festive ceremony.

So it was a big effort on my side which paid off. So all those guys who are disheartened by the fact that BaWü, Bayern, Sachsen dont count education time in Germany needed for getting citizenship, see my case and just apply. Prove you are highly qualified and an asset for Germany and you can get through.

@justdoit
If you change job after submittion of Einbürgerung application you have to inform them. As per your nick do not think much and justdoit. Once the process is started it will come to an end sooner or later does not matter and also you can not change it.

@supersid
Congratulations! u did it with super speed (Y)

Regards
Khan

@ Supersid

I am living in Munich and working; I had finished PhD from Heidelberg before 5 years.

I recently visited Einbürgerung stelle at KVR and was told that even after integration course I am not having rights to ask for citizenship under §8 after 7 years because Gewöhlich aufenthalt is not 7 years because of education time. She told me to come back to KVR after 8 years finished.

What to do next ??

As said, just apply. Do your Einbürgerungstest, language B1 and on top do the orientation course test (search on BAMF website). Submit O-Kurs + B1 to BAMF Regionalkoordinator and you will get Zertifikat Integrationskurs (this is an addition to your application)

Tell that you are highly qualified and there is a national interest to provide citizenship faster to people like you.

Tell them that the decisionmaking authority is the Regierung von Oberbayern in case of para 8 so they need to accept the application.

Write a nice motivation letter and dont just say I want to travel visafree

Ask your current employer to write a recommendation letter how great you are, how much Germany needs people like you AND if it is the case, that you need to travel international regularly and the citizenship will help you (this is a very important point).

AND JUST APPLY: BE STRONGHEADED AND FIGHT....

Last Monday I informed the auslander amt that I am changing my job from 1st Nov. As per the rule when someone applies for citizenship and there is a change in status he needs to inform the amt.The auslanderamt responded in a letter stating that I need to provide them with the new contract,payslip and the reason of changing my last job(ie resignation letter or discharge letter). Here are my questions

1. My new job is limited to one year for the time being. The contract will terminate on 31st Oct 2011. I have also received a good compensation package from my last employer. Do you think there could be a problem in getting citizenship because the new contract is "Befristet" ? I have currently a Niederlassungs Erlaubnis status with Daueraufenthal-EG.

2. Also do you feel that to prove my financial solvency I should provide my Bank Statement although the Auslander Amt has not really asked for it.

Please help me on this subject as it is a slightly tricky situation.

Regards

Ikkyg

They can just decide a "yes" or "no". I dont see any reason for "No" because you still have a job and not getting any ALG or Hartz IV. So just provide the documents they ask and wait.

dear all..today i got the letter from Darmstadt asking me to do a bank transfer for myself and my daughter (255 euros + 51 euros) and informing me that once they recieve the money then they would send the urkunde to the neu-isenburg standesamt.As i remarked earlier in this post i applied on october 1st 2010.so things seem to be fast in frankfurt.

Hi xsridhar and everyone,

How long did the Security Check took you? I heard 6 months, but the Amt told me 60 days.

Also if they will ask me to give up my nationality, how will I be able to travel until I get the German passport? I think after the Urkunde the Passport take 6 months or so, am I right?

mg

my security check took 4 weeks. could differ state to state.

Well if you want to travel, you can get an emergency passport immediately at the normal bürgerbüro. passport issue takes about 4-5 weeks.

thanks

wow..got a call from the neu-isenburg amt (just now) to collect the urkunde(s) on december 3rd ..

as posted earlier, summary of the timelines is as below

1st october -> submitted all my forms at the neu-isenburg einburgerungbehorde

13th october -> recieved acknowledgement from neu-isenburg amt that they forwarded my papers to Darmstadt amt.

16th october -> recieved acknowledgement from Darmstadt amt that they recieved my forms.

then everything was quite until november 13th

13th november -> recieved a letter from Darmstadt to transfer the money and i did it immediately through online.

29th november -> got a call from the neu-isenburg amt that i can collect the urkunde's on december 3rd friday.


came to germany in 2001 on the "green card" and working in IT like many others on this forum from that time onwards and did not have any break ..

Hi Supersid,

you seems to be quite a benchmark to successfully acquire Hq-niederlassungserlaubnis and einburgerung in a short time.

quite a new member in this forum ...

I'm also preparing to apply for Hq-niederlassungserlaubnis after 5 years stay (only 3 years pesion paid). could you please be so kind and give me some hints how to write a cover letter for this application?

many thanks

For your info - NE for HQ has nothing to do with pension contribution or language skills.

Just prepare your CV highlighting your qualifications and experience. Take a letter from your employer praising you and a so called Arbeitgeberbestätigung (letter of employment) saying what you are working as, how much you earn, job contract terminated or unternminated, permanent or not, and working since when.

If you earn well (above 66K per year) and dont have a jerk sitting there as an officer, it should work out.

Dear friends

I applied for EB this year Feb also for my wife and kid.

My wife is in Germany by now 6 years. My kid is born in Germany.

The EB office told me that i will get it soon. But he expressed some complexity about my wife and kid. As my wife is not 8 years in Germany and my kid is small. My kid is 4 years. And she is going to Kita. They took the documents too.

I and my wife passed all the exams necessary and submitted all necessary documents.

Is there any criteria for depends to citizenship.

Any answers for the following will be highly appreciated.

Thank you in Advance.

Hi,

I would like to ask that i applied for German citizenship and after 6 weeks i got Einbürgerungsurkunde. I applied to cancel my previous citzenship a month ago. I donot know how long it will take but meanwhile i lost my Job and now getting arbeitlos Geld. I donot know what should i do. Should i inform ausländerbehorde ? do i have to give Einbürgerungsurkunde back ? Shall i get German Citizenship in this case or Not ?


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